Rosja odrzuca propozycję pomocy UE przy badaniu katastrofy, Kopacz dziękuje. ZOBACZ NAGRANIE
13 kwietnia 2010 r. w Moskwie odbyło się międzyrządowe spotkaniu polsko-rosyjskie, na którym przedstawiono wniosek krajów UE i "innych państw europejskich" oferujących pomoc w badaniu przyczyn katastrofy smoleńskiej. Projekt ten, przy całkowicie biernej postawę przedstawicieli rządu Donalda Tuska, nie został rozpatrzony. Mimo, że nagrania na stronie KPRM Rosji już nie ma (początkowo dostępnego) - dotarliśmy do kopii.
Portal niezalezna.pl prezentuje film, na którym widać jak Ewa Kopacz zamiast podjąć temat pomocy międzynarodowej, skupiła się na dziękowaniu Rosji za pomoc w Smoleńsku. - Pracujemy jak jedna wielka rodzina - zapewniała Kopacz.
http://vod.gazetapolska.pl/8038-kopacz-anodina-putin-i-propozycja-pomocy-ue-przy-badaniu-katastrofy-smolenskiej-narada-w-moskwi
- Organy śledcze Unii Europejskiej oraz innych państw europejskich wyraziły gotowość uczestnictwa w pracach komisji technicznej, jeżeli zaistnieje taka potrzeba - mówiła trzy dni po katastrofie smoleńskiej, na polsko-rosyjskiej naradzie Tatiana Anodina, szefowa rosyjskiej komisji MAK. Wniosek ten nie został rozpatrzony, ponieważ jak przekonywała Anodina "nie ma wątpliwości co do obiektywności MAK". Ewa Kopacz, ówczesna minister zdrowia i przedstawiciel polskiego rządu, nawet nie oponowała, a zamiast twardo negocjować, mówiła o fantastycznej współpracy oraz rozpływała się nad gościnnością, profesjonalizmem i doskonałym tempem pracy Rosjan.
Decyzje podjęte na spotkaniu w Moskwie 13 kwietnia 2010 r. z dzisiejszej perspektywy są jedne z najbardziej kluczowych dla przebiegu smoleńskiego śledztwa, identyfikacji ciał ofiar katastrofy, stanu dowodów z miejsca zdarzenia i ustaleń prawnych obowiązujących w badaniu tragedii do dzisiaj. Zaraz po katastrofie, międzynarodowe organizacje - wraz ekspertami - zaoferowały swoją pomoc. MAK te propozycje odrzucił, a polski rząd nie zaprotestował.
JAK KOPACZ DZIĘKOWAŁA ANODINIE - POSŁUCHAJ
Spotkaniu w Moskwie przewodniczył premier Władimir Putin, a obecni byli, oprócz przedstawicieli prokuratorów z Polski (Krzysztofa Parulskiego) i Rosji (Aleksandra Bastrykina), również m.in. szef kancelarii premiera Donalda Tuska - Tomasz Arabski (obecnie ambasador w Hiszpanii), podsekretarz stanu w MSZ - Jacek Najder (obecnie ambasador RP przy NATO), akredytowany polskiego rządu przy MAK - Edmund Klich i ambasador Polski w Rosji - Jerzy Bahr oraz Sergei Ivanov - wicepremier w rządzie Putina (i jego przyjaciel z KGB) i szefowa rosyjskiej komisji MAK - Tatiana Anodina.
Po latach Ewa Kopacz przekonywała dziennikarza "Codziennej", że na naradzie była jedynie jako… opiekunka rodzin.
NARADA W MOSKWIE. ZOBACZ NAGRANIE W CAŁOŚCI:
Kopacz, Anodina, Putin i propozycja pomocy UE przy badaniu katastrofy smoleńskiej. Narada w Moskwie
Przesłany 10.09.2014
Prime Minister Vladimir Putin holds a meeting of the state commission to investigate the causes of the Tu-154 plane crash. Representatives of the Polish side taking part in investigating the crash have been invited to the meeting
Prime Minister Vladimir Putin holds a meeting of the state commission to investigate the causes of the Tu-154 plane crash. Representatives of the Polish side taking part in investigating the crash have been invited to the meeting
Tatyana Anodina: Mr Putin, members of the state commission, our Polish colleagues.
The technical commission of the CIS IAC, which has been registered by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) as an independent regional international organisation, is investigating the circumstances of the crash of the Tu-154 aircraft of the Polish state aviation with the participation of representatives of the Defence Ministry and federal bodies, and in close cooperation with the authorised representatives and a big group of experts from Poland.
All required experts are taking part in the commission's work - pilots, technical experts and specialists on meteorological flight support from research institutes and industrial companies of both countries. A joint working group has been decoding and analysing all flight information since the recorders were opened. Polish experts are providing us with important assistance in identifying the voices of the crew members and decoding other data. We then register everything jointly.
The sides keep the recorders in safes sealed by both sides. The work is conducted in Russian and English. We have full understanding on a professional and on a linguistic level.
The commission will complete its work to determine the trajectory of the plane's flight before the crash on the site today and will start bringing fragments of the aircraft from the site of the crash to a site next to the airport, which is under special surveillance.
We are analyzing all flight and technical documents together with Polish specialists. A tentative examination and analysis of the plane's fragments and decoding of the in-flight data of the recorders has established that the engines were operational until the impact and that there was no fire or explosion on board the plane.
The decoding of the in-flight data of the recorders and its analysis show that there were no failures of on-board equipment. Nevertheless, as the international regulations require, the final conclusions will be made after thorough examination of all the fragments. As it has already been reported, specialists are decoding and analysing all in-flight data of the recorders.
One more additional flight data recorder was found yesterday. The commission decided to meet the Polish side's request on its decoding with the participation of our experts in Poland. An air-check of the airfield's radio-technical facilities is scheduled for April 16.
I would like to emphasise once again that the investigation is being carried out in line with international procedures and regulations set by the ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization), which encompasses 190 states, including Russia and Poland.
Investigators from the European Union and other countries have expressed their willingness to participate in the work of the Technical Commission, should this be deemed necessary. However, these investigators have said that they do not doubt the impartiality and professionalism of either the Commission or Russian experts. IAC (Interstate Aviation Committee) specialists have extensive experience with international investigations, having conducted such investigations in 53 countries, none of which have thus far been contested.
In closing, I'd like to thank you, Mr Prime Minister, and your government, including the ministers present here today, for setting up all the conditions necessary to facilitate the work of the Commission.
Thank you for your attention.
Ewa Kopacz: Mr Prime Minister, ladies and gentlemen,
First of all, I'd like to sincerely thank my counterpart, Tatyana Golikova, the Minister of Healthcare of the Russian Federation.
It's been three days since the tragedy. As of late last night, 48 bodies had been identified.
We all understand what the remains of the victims of such a disaster look like. Identifying and confirming the dead is very difficult. These results are due to the efforts of both Polish and Russian pathologists. We have been working as one big team. To be honest, this is the first time I have seen such good or even exemplary cooperation; these specialists complement each other perfectly.
I'd also like to express my gratitude to the Minister of Healthcare for her efforts and involvement in this work on behalf of the relatives of the victims of the tragedy who have already left for Poland. Also, I'd like to share their request that we speed up the work of the forensic experts. When reporting to the people of Poland, we'd like to say with a clear conscience that we've done our best to identify all the bodies.
As the Minister of Healthcare said, tomorrow the bodies will start to be repatriated to Poland. Last night another group of Polish specialists arrived in Russia, and they have already begun working. We've also brought coffins for the bodies that have been identified.
I'd like to sincerely thank everyone once again.
